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Posted on Friday 28 June 2013 at 12:26 pm

Radio Downloader is Dead for BBC Radio


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The BBC is already moving forward with stopping the downloads of radio programs in anticipation of introducing their own DRM loaded downloading in 2014. I was annoyed about them introducing DRMed downloads but I understood that. I don't understand stopping existing download options before the new DRM system is operational. That just sucks! I knew the end of Radio Downloader would be coming but hadn't expected it this soon and haven't given any thought to what I'd do next. There are other ways to download the audio files, but the only ones I know are more time consuming and have to be done episode by episode with no kind of subscription options. I'll look into it and see what I can find and if anyone knows of any alternatives, PLEASE let me know! In the meantime, it appears that existing subscriptions on Radio Downloader are working, you just can't make any new subscriptions.

The message from the guy who created Radio Downloader:
Following a request from the BBC, I have removed the Radio Downloader source and installers. They will return shortly minus the BBC Radio Provider plugin (e.g. the ability to download BBC Radio programmes).

My apologies for the disappointment that this will cause but I hope that you will understand. I believe that the BBC is planning to offer downloads of radio programmes from 2014.

On a personal note, I would like to thank everyone for their words of encouragement and support over the years and for putting up with my sporadic updates. I had hoped to do more to Radio Downloader over the last six months but unfortunately I have not been well and life seems to have been rather hectic...
26 June 2013
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EDIT: For anyone looking for a Radio Downloader replacement, check out this later post where I think I've got something working.
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Comments:

magog_83
magog_83 at 5:38 pm on 28 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
My subscriptions have already stopped working (R1 Breakfast Show). I am so bummed out about this. Their download service is no substitution because I still won't be able to keep the shows, they're just going to be lost (unlike TV where you can at least buy the DVD box set). I have a near unbroken archive of my favourite radio shows :(
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 6:01 pm on 28 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
I think all my existing subscriptions are still working, but I haven't actually checked every one. I just know that Radio Downloader is telling me that it has downloaded episodes of things today. I suppose I might be unpleasantly surprise and disappointed when I go to check

I'm trying to come up with other options to last at least until the DRM program is running. I hate DRM for a great many reasons, including the fact that the files will presumably delete after 30 days / one week from first playing like the BBC's current TV so you won't be able to keep them like you said, but I do understand why the BBC would adopt it. My current big problem is just with them shutting down the existing options a full six months at minimum before the expected launching of the new system. Once the new system is in place, I'm sure I'll have problems with it, too (especially if they make it UK only like the TV iPlayer), but right now I just can't get past them shutting down the current stuff before that is even in place. There's no real justification for that, as far as I'm concerned.
(Anonymous) at 9:12 pm on 28 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)

BBC let us down again

Matt's BBC Radio Player has been a godsend for me for years now, as I live in the Middle East and despite still having a TV licence, I am not allowed to access product I have paid for. I am 4 hours ahead of UK time and unable to listen live and record the live stream. Not all of my favourite shows are available as podcast either - so basically I'm hacked off! Surely, as a publicly funded body the Beeb has no right to lock it's products down with DRM or deprive faithful long-time listeners?
Anyone know of alternatives?

Chris
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 5:45 pm on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)

Re: BBC let us down again

I've given it a lot of thought and come up with a list of the only possible alternatives I know, none of them great. I made it a separate post because it is quite long, but here's what I've got. Please do let me know if you find out about any other options!
bowl_of_glow
bowl_of_glow at 8:13 am on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
In the meantime, it appears that existing subscriptions on Radio Downloader are working, you just can't make any new subscriptions.

THAT SUCKS

There are other ways to download the audio files, but the only ones I know are more time consuming and have to be done episode by episode with no kind of subscription options.

There are other ways to download then (time-consuming as they may be)? Because apart from Radio Downloader I know of no other and I'd like to have an option, even temporary, if something interesting comes up :(
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 5:46 pm on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
It really does suck! I've been mocking myself over my anguish at my first world geek problems, but this really is a major problem and a big deal to me.

I've given it a lot of thought and come up with a list of the only possible alternatives I know, none of them great. I made it a separate post because it is quite long, but here's what I've got. Please do let me know if you find out about any other options!
(Anonymous) at 11:18 am on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)

Thanks for nothng BBC!

I'm really annoyed that the BBC have done this to Radio Downloader, which was an excellent programme to download BBC Radio shows. How can I listen to my favourite BBC Radio shows in the car now?
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 5:46 pm on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)

Re: Thanks for nothng BBC!

I've given it a lot of thought and come up with a list of the only possible alternatives I know, none of them great. I made it a separate post because it is quite long, but here's what I've got. Please do let me know if you find out about any other options!
space_oddity_75
space_oddity_75 at 8:44 pm on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Oh, gosh. I loathe DRM and hate the fact that the BBC is giving us non-Brits no feasible alternatives for legal downloads that we can listen to whenever we want. :(

I have no idea whether my downloads are still working because now I'm posting from a different PC, but I hope I can at least finish downloading what I've subscribed to (Middlemarch and a couple other things) because I hate leaving things in the middle and not having the chance of getting the missing files anywhere else!

I'd happily pay the Beeb if I could download those files or buy the CDs, but I'm pretty sure this is not going to happen apart for a few selected shows, so I'm suffering in silence and hoping they change their mind, or at least find a way to distribute their stuff to everyone in the world, and not only in the UK.

Now pardon me while I go sulking in the corner. :(
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 12:35 am on 01 July 2013 (UTC) (Link)
I'd happily pay the Beeb if I could download those files or buy the CDs
I cannot express my agreement with this loudly enough. I buy the things they let me buy. If they aren't going to put it out there for sale, taking away my ability to listen to it while working out or otherwise on the go and not at a computer with internet access during their specified seven days is just ridiculous.

I have no idea whether my downloads are still working
If you haven't been able to check yet, I can basically guarantee that they aren't working as of what was late Friday afternoon for my timezone. They appear to have changed a line of their code to prevent existing versions of Radio Downloader from working. They are intentionally screwing us over at this point.
(Anonymous) at 10:12 pm on 29 June 2013 (UTC) (Link)
the Radio Downloader is dead,
Long live get_iplayer!

You can download it from here,
https://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/wiki/webpvr
Use the web based PVR manager, a lot easier to wrap your head around than the DOSbox original.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 5:15 pm on 01 July 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for the heads up. I'll give it a try later today. I have two computers that sync over the internet and I've made a lot of changes on one so right now my wifi bandwidth is kind of getting swamped trying to get all the files over to the other machine.


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