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Posted on Saturday 20 October 2007 at 12:29 am

JKR Chat


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Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. Dumbledore's gay, Neville married Hannah, etc. JKR said it and the internet (yes, all of it) is going bonkers. Whatever. Here is the good stuff from JKR's chat thing tonight in New York

Information on the original Order members was also revealed during tonight's event. Jo related the fact that Remus Lupin, prior to the third book, was unemployable because he was a werewolf and upon his graduation from Hogwarts along with James and Lily, was supported by James using their own money. In addition to this she shed more light on the early days of the Order, saying James, Sirius, Remus and Lily were full time Order members. "Full Time Fighters," as Jo put it. (Courtesy of The Leaky Cauldron)

I is confused again. For a handful of years after Hogwarts, Remus lived on James' money. For the next 12 years, he lived on... nothing? Then he has a job for one year, nothing for one year, and the next year looks shabbier than before because Umbridge passed laws making it more difficult for him to get a job. More difficult than before when he couldn't get one and had no income for 12 years?

Bah humbug. TLC said they would have the full transcript up soon. Hopefully that will make it clearer. No matter what the transcript says, the novels indicate to me at least that the man had random odd jobs for those missing 12 years but Umbridge's laws meant he had nothing for the GoF year.

Comments:

What's Taters, Precious?
mrstater at 12:13 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
If Remus was living with James and Lily then what the heck did they do with him when they went into hiding? This does not at all make sense with what we knew in PoA. And why didn't Remus ever tell Harry? And if he was used to being a moochy layabout, why did he have a problem with mooching off Tonks?
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 4:08 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
It just can't work because it leaves him without any support for 12 years. That is craziness. And if the Potters will set up some kind of trust for Remus to receive a stipend or something even after they were gone, Harry would have been told about that when he turned 17 and officially got everything.

The only indication we've had that Remus minded mooching is the too poor in his litany. Perhaps he really thought Tonks was too poor to support them both?
Jules
littlepixiechic at 2:09 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
From some of the interviews JKR has given so far (after Deathly Hallows) it seems like some of things she reveals about the characters and their lives make sense, and work with everything else we know about them,and some leave you very confused.

I get the feeling that she had already made up her mind about certain characters, but others she's kind of still working out and instead of saying "I just don't know the answer to that (yet)" she goes and gives out little pieces of ideas that she's been toying with and it gets confusing.

Either that or she's super evil and sits around before every interview plotting trying to decide how to make people super confused because that's part of her plot to take over the world. With her purple homework monster sidekick.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 4:05 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
I vote the last option. At least it sounds like what I would do if I were the creator of a franchise over which millions of people obsessed.
Clockworks07
blackunicorn777 at 3:18 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
I totally agree with both mrstater and littlepixiechic.
Remus didn't seem like someone who can stand mooching from someone in all the books he was in. And he had Parents and they certainly had supported him in Hogwarts and must have put something for him after they died even if we assume he found NO JOB IN TWELVE YEARS!! And this means he lived on NOTHING for 12 years!!? K I think this was one of those questions that JK must have said to herself "How could you think of any such thing!I'm the AUTHOR and never thought of this!" so she gave us a quick answer for now!she spends considarably less time than we do obssesing over characters lol!x)
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 4:09 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
There is no way he had no support for those 12 years. There had to be something! Some days that woman drives me batty.
belladonna1986
belladonna1986 at 11:23 pm on 20 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
Wow, this subject is all over the flist and internet...

Hmm, I've become a bit unsure and reluctant about information JKR gives in an interview, we all know it's a huge universe and she also gets things wrong and forgets something or never gave any thought about that before, which results in confusing answers...

I agree with you about Remus not being jobless these 13 years, I mean he has to get some experience about teaching and he has that knowledge about the dark arts only someone would know, who studied it intensively, so there must have been some jobs for him.

Once there was a time, where I anticipated Jo's answers, but now?



Rachael
bratty_jedi at 2:33 pm on 21 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
The stuff she gives in interviews is interesting and sometimes useful, but if I feel like contradicting it or ignoring it in fanfic or anything else, I will without feeling any obligation to warn people. I mean, the woman is speaking in the heat of the moment without any notes, of course she's going to screw up sometimes.

He 100% had to have some kind of job. That is the only thing that makes sense.
appyangel94 at 10:00 pm on 21 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
I didn't see that.... You're right, that IS confusing. At least there's something besides Dumbledore being gay.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 10:03 pm on 21 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
mrstater told me that the actual transcript is very different from TLC's paraphrasing. Something about only James, Lily, and Sirius are mentioned as being full-time fighters and Sirius is the one James was supporting not Remus. I haven't read it yet, but now I really don't know what to think.
appyangel94 at 11:12 pm on 21 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
Now THAT'S even more confusing. How the hell did Remus survive those years? And why would James support Sirius? Sirius could have had a job....

Maybe it'll be cleared up in who knows how long when/if JKR releases that Encyclopedia thing. Or was that all rumor too?
Shield Wolf
shield_wolf at 1:23 am on 22 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
That had to have been a mistake. Sirius inherited money from his uncle. James would not have needed to support him!
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 2:02 am on 22 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
Do we know in exactly what year Sirius inherited that money? Or when/where James got all his money for that matter?
Shield Wolf
shield_wolf at 11:07 pm on 22 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
Alphard was conveniently blasted off the family tree, so we don't know when he died, but we do know that Sirius ran away from home at around sixteen, meaning sometime during 1976 in all likelihood. He moved in with James and his parents at that time, so maybe he never left?

(Oh, dear, I think I just may have made an argument in favor of it really being Sirius who was "supported" by Lily and James. Sorry.)

As for James, he definitely inherited his wealth from his parents. I believe that JKR may have revealed this fact in the post-HBP Mugglenet/TLC interview, and I even seem to remember it being linked with the information that he had a "job" but didn't really need one to provide an income.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 1:58 am on 23 October 2007 (UTC) (Link)
I was fairly certain James inherited his money from his parents. We know Sirius moved in with Mr. and Mrs. Potter and we know James had already inherited the money by the time he died so that doesn't leave much time for the MWPP generation to leave Hogwarts, Uncle Alphard to die, Mr. and Mrs. Potter to die, James and Lily to get hitched, James and Lily to get pregnant, and Harry to be born (all in an unknown order).


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