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Posted on Thursday 21 February 2013 at 9:45 pm

Fandoms annoying me today: Sherlock (BBC)


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Dear Crazypants Sherlock fandom on Tumblr-

I don't have a tumblr for many reasons that I consider to be very good ones. Outside of tumblr, I have a tendency to stay on the fringe of Sherlock fandom because I have issues with it. So why is it that I am still hearing about you having a second bat shit insane blow up in a month? I'm not involved with you, and I still can't get away from your madness! Please knock it off and stop giving all the rest of us Sherlock (BBC) / Sherlock Holmes fans a bad name!

Sincerely,
Rachael, who has been in love with Sherlock Holmes since she was 3 or 4 years old and who hated Sherlock (BBC) at first and can still get a pretty good rant on about the first episode but who admits 1:3 and all of series 2 are brilliant

PS I know the entire fandom and even the entire fandom on tumblr aren't insane. This is for the crazy ones only.


Comments:

eanor
eanor at 5:58 am on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
What have they done this time?
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 11:52 am on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Some other show (Teen Wolf?) has its third season coming out soon. When people in that fandom started tagging posts #s3, #series3, or #season3, Sherlock fans freaked out because they thought it was about Sherlock series 3 and didn't want anyone else using any tags vaguely resembling series 3.

The one before that was about them trying to spam Downton Abbey tags because of Downton beating Sherlock for some award (seriously, get over yourselves), but misspelling it Downtown so failing even at their really stupid nefarious plot.

The one before that which I didn't include in my post because it was more than a month ago (I think) was similar to the current one. Some band released an album named Sherlock and when the fans of it started tagging posts about the album Sherlock with the tag #Sherlock the Sherlock (BBC) fans got crazy possessive of their stupid tag.

All three of these basically amount to the Sherlock fandom apparently thinking they own tumblr, have the right to dictate the usage of certain tags and no one else can use them even if they make perfect sense for others to use them, and, in the case of Downton, they're allowed to mock and spam others all they want despite the hissy fits the Sherlock fandom throws when someone else perfectly reasonably uses a tag Sherlock fandom has used or wants to use. The fact they misspelled Downton is just the icing on their stupid cake.
aoife
failte_aoife at 7:48 am on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
I do like the show (even though I also have several issues with it) but its fandom scares me sometimes, too...
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 11:54 am on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Yeppers. Like I said, my issues are almost exclusively with the first two episodes and I love the other four without reservation, but OMG the crazies in the fandom!
aoife
failte_aoife at 3:47 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
It can be creepy at times or almost always. I mean I get that they're impatient for season 3. I'm also quite excited for it but almost every single post I see about it makes it sound like the cliffhanger had actually been 'does Sherlock survive or not?' even though we clearly saw that he did (and even if we hadn't...there's the small matter of a) the show being called 'Sherlock' and b) the original canon) and I'm just standing there going 'I know I get overly emotional about fictional characters and still think you're weird...' (and I haven't even seen most of the drama your talking about as somehow I am very luck in that aspect)

Somehow I want the Sherlock-fandom to meet the ASOIAF-fandom which I think invented 'whining about cliffhangers and too much waiting-time between the books' (with slightly more reason to do so but they still can be really annoying in that aspect...) It would be fascinating to watch XD
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 5:09 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
even though we clearly saw that he did (and even if we hadn't...there's the small matter of a) the show being called 'Sherlock' and b) the original canon)

I know! How he did it, how long he is going to be "dead" before revealing himself to others, how everyone is going to react to that, the fallout over his reputation being destroyed, etc. are all things I'm looking forward to learning, but we know that those are the things to find out not whether or not he's alive. And while we wait for the "real" answers, we could be having awesome discussions and fanfic speculating on what the answers could be. Instead we mostly have whining.

Of course the current Cabin Pressure cliffhanger of doom kerfuffle is almost certainly some of the same people. Good grief.

EDIT: On the matter of the original canon, I meant to add that there is some kind of Pride and Prejudice thing going on right now (Lizzie Bennet Diaries maybe?) that a friend watches so I pick up bits and pieces on what's going on there from her. She said someone recently posted the original Austen as a historical-AU fanfic of the show and most people didn't catch it and had no idea what was going on. I like to think the Conan Doyle canon and idea of Holmesian pastiches are big enough you couldn't get away with that at all in the Sherlock (BBC) fandom, but sometimes I wonder.

Somehow I want the Sherlock-fandom to meet the ASOIAF-fandom which I think invented 'whining about cliffhangers and too much waiting-time between the books'

Have you seen Neil Gaiman's GRRM is not your bitch blog post about that? I love it.

Edited at 2013-02-22 05:13 pm (UTC)
aoife
failte_aoife at 5:48 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
And while we wait for the "real" answers, we could be having awesome discussions and fanfic speculating on what the answers could be. Instead we mostly have whining.

This. These things drove me away from Sherlock-Fanfiction (for the moment). It's mostly John 'HOW COULD YOU?' and Sherlock 'I AM SO SORRY LET'S HAVE SEX TO MAKE UP' on anything between one and thirty chapters but without any try at explaning how it happened. Not that I mind John/Sherlock but the obsession with them is another creepy thing in the fandom.

someone recently posted the original Austen as a historical-AU fanfic of the show and most people didn't catch it and had no idea what was going on.

Oh. God.
But yes, on a German Fanfiction-site I did actually saw something in the Sherlock-Section that was a 'Victorian AU'...I did simply run away screaming and didn't check if that was genuine or somebody trolling.

Have you seen Neil Gaiman's GRRM is not your bitch blog post about that? I love it.
I saw it and it was epic :D
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 8:42 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Not that I mind John/Sherlock but the obsession with them is another creepy thing in the fandom.
I wouldn't go so far as to say creepy. I'll go with not my personal preference, especially not the fact that that is something like 99.9% of the fandom, and save creepy for things like real person fic. I'm totally with you on These things drove me away from Sherlock-Fanfiction (for the moment). The fandom overall is just so much not what I want or hoped for which is fine since it isn't like I expect to be able to dictate to a fandom what they should and should not find interesting. But I think even while acknowledging that people should do what interests them and it is just my problem that what I want isn't what most people seem to want I'm allowed to be disappointed that what I want isn't out there much.

I have a 6-part fic inspired by this video that was making the rounds ages ago showing Hugh Laurie's House, MD as Cumberbatch's Sherlock's father that is something like 80% done but I haven't worked on it in months. I like the ideas and it is something in which others might be interested thanks to the video and other fics it inspired that I know are out there, but I just get so annoyed with the fandom that it is hard to stir up the energy to finish it. Maybe I'll work on it this weekend now that it is in my mind. We'll see.
What's Taters, Precious?
mrstater at 12:47 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Oh god. The Downton and Sherlock fandoms have a long, terrible history, ever since Benedict Cumberbatch said in an interview that "Downton is fucking atrocious." So then Downton won the Bafta or one of the other recent major awards over it and the fandom ERUPTED again.

Though frankly, the Downton fandom deserves everything it gets. I'm sure the Sherlock fandom is worse, but Dowtnon (on Tumblr) is seriously The Worst fandom I've ever participated in.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 1:46 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
ever since Benedict Cumberbatch said in an interview that "Downton is fucking atrocious."

I don't get the hysteria over this. A random actor, who was explicitly asked dozens of times for his opinion on the show due to being in something else that could be seen as tangentially related, said he doesn't like your favorite show. So what? Could he have been more tactful? Sure. Maybe he should have just stuck to something more like "Not to my taste but, hey, other people seem to love it." OK. Let his publicist and parents lecture him on being more tactful if they're so inclined because I still just don't get why anyone would really care about his opinion. Whether random other person likes your show or not should be completely irrelevant to whether or not you like the show. I mean, he isn't even in Downton. I couldn't begin to count all the actors who have somehow insulted their own fandoms, for fandoms I'm in, and I still don't care.

I'm sure the Sherlock fandom is worse
Almost certainly. When you have a star with a segment of his fans willing to call themselves by a portmanteau of his name and the word bitch, you are just set up for mega drama from the start.

*sigh* I really don't understand people sometimes.
What's Taters, Precious?
mrstater at 3:06 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Well the Downton fans kind of had a bee in their bonnet because Parade's End is set in the same time period as Downton so it got a lot of comparison...but nothing can compete with Downton (in terms of viewership) so it was still silly.

And yes. Who really cares what another celebrity thinks? Of course, Cumberbatch has a point. :) But seriously, they jumped all over him for being posh.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 3:16 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Wait.... Downton fans threw being posh at someone else as an insult!? Wow.

Parade's End is set in the same time period as Downton so it got a lot of comparison
Yeah. That's what I meant about Cumberbatch getting asked his opinion on Downton a lot because of them being tangentially related. I don't see the need for the comparison since it isn't like those two things are the first or only things set during that era, but I understand that's the way these kind of publicity things work. The fandom reaction confuses me more because it really seemed like some Downton fans thought their show was the first thing ever to be set in that era and anything else had to be copying them, apparently including an adaptation of books written in the 1920s.

For the record, never watched Downton. No interest in doing so. The Parade's End books are some of the greatest things I've ever read and I love them to pieces. The mini series adaptation was honestly better than I expected but has serious problems. The biggest one is that Parade's End is four books and the mini series is five episodes and episodes one to three covered book one while books two, three, and somewhat but not really four are in episodes four and five so episodes one and two drag and are boring, three and four are actually really good and I like them quite a bit, and five is ok but a bit weird.
What's Taters, Precious?
mrstater at 3:19 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
Wait.... Downton fans threw being posh at someone else as an insult!? Wow.

Yes. Even though Cumberbatch is school pals with Dan Stevens, who publishes an extremely pretentious literary journal.

And I'm also pretty sure he said Downton atrocious long before PE ever came out--the interview was only really dredged up after the fact. That's what's atrocious.

I need to read the PE books. I quite liked the miniseries but felt I was missing a lot. I thought he was fantastic in it, though.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 3:29 pm on 22 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
The collected Parade's End is long since it was originally four separate books (Some Do Not, No More Parades, A Man Can Stand Up, and Last Post) but none of the individual books are that long and I found it all to be a pretty quick read. The miniseries did a good job of covering the highlights and the overall tone, but they did miss a lot of the details of Tietjens's life not immediately connected to the love triangle, changed the details of the last book completely (expected because the last book is weird and doesn't mesh 100% with the first three), missed out on the wonderfulness of being in Tietjens head (though I agree that Cumberbatch did a good job with the role; you just can't translate what is in the book onto the screen in any way) and turned it into a straightforward linear narrative which it decidedly isn't.
impulsereader
impulsereader at 3:17 am on 23 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
This. So much this. guh. I truly despise tumblr and avoid it like the plague.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 1:34 pm on 23 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
I avoid tumblr and yet it follows me. So much crazy it overflows!
The other Weird Al
aeron_lanart at 4:39 am on 23 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
I tend to avoid the crazies by dint of steering well clear of Tumblr as the crazy fans of all fandoms seem to congregate there. I find my corner of Sherlock fandom quite pleasant, people are still crazy but in the best of ways.
Rachael
bratty_jedi at 1:34 pm on 23 February 2013 (UTC) (Link)
That's my problem, though. I don't have a tumblr and have never actually looked at the Sherlock tags there or anything similar. I'm just heavily embedded in so many online communities that tons of stuff still filters in and I can't get away from the insanity even when I try. Most of the time I'm content to just watch from the outside and shake my head at the craziness but Sherlock fandom on tumblr is so bloody crazy and I start to feel a bit of guilt by association even though I don't actually have any association. I need more of the good crazy.


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